Thursday, January 26, 2006

Temerity

This is the mainstream media today. This is America. God help us.

Belafonte compares the Department of Homeland Security and the deeds of the US Government to the Gestapo. Blitzer takes exception. Belafonte reminds him how American citizens can be taken away to foreign countries to be tortured without being charged. Blitzer does not deny this, but he says

"But no one has taken you or anyone else, as far as I can tell, to an extermination camp..."

Belafonte says perhaps if the Jews and other Germans had spoken up earlier [The Holocaust] might have been avoided. Blizter actually has the unabashed raw temerity to fallaciously ask:

“…are you blaming the Jews of Germany for what Hitler did to them?”

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BLITZER: The new Gestapo. You know, those are powerful words, calling an agency of the U.S. government, the Department of Homeland Security with, what, about 300,000 federal employees, the new Gestapo. Do you want to take that back?

BELAFONTE: No, not really. I stand by my remarks. I am very much aware of what this has provoked in our national community. And I welcome the opportunity for us to begin to have a dialogue that goes other than where we've been having one up until now. People feel that I talk in extremes. But if you look at what's happening to American citizens, a lot is going on in the extreme.

We've taken citizens from this country without the right to be charged, without being told what they're taken for, we've spirited them out of this country, taken them to far away places and reports come back with some consistency that they are being tortured, that they're not being told what they've done. And even some who have been released have come back and testified to this fact.

BLITZER: But let me interrupt for a second. Are you familiar -- and I'm sure you are, because you're an intelligent man -- what the Gestapo did to the Jews in World War II?

BELAFONTE: Absolutely.

BLITZER: And you think that what the Department of Homeland Security is doing to, you know, some U.S. citizens suspected of terrorism is similar to what the Nazis did to the Jew?

BELAFONTE: Well, if you're taking people out of a country and spiriting them someplace else, and they're being tortured, and they're being charged without -- or not being charged, so they don't know what it is they've done.

It may not have been directly inside the Department of Homeland Security, but the pattern, the system, it's what the system does. It's what all these different divisions have begun to reveal in their collective.

My phones are tapped. OK? My mail can be opened. They don't even need a court warrant to come and do that as we once were required to do.

BLITZER:
But no one has taken you or anyone else, as far as I can tell, to an extermination camp and by the tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, even millions decided to kill them, which is what the Nazis did.

BELAFONTE: Well, Mr. Blitzer, let me say this to you, perhaps, just perhaps had the Jews of Germany and people spoken out much earlier and had resisted the tyranny that was on the horizon, perhaps we would never have had...

BLITZER:
Well, wait a minute, wait a minute, are you blaming the Jews of Germany for what Hitler did to them?

BELAFONTE: No, no. What I'm saying is that if it an awakened citizenry, begins to oppose the first inkling of the subversion of government, of the subversion of our democracy, then perhaps an early warning would have saved the world a lot of what we all experienced. I'm not accusing the Jews at all.

BLITZER: Well, I just heard you say perhaps if the Jews of Germany had done something earlier then that might not have happened. That's what I thought you were getting at.

BELAFONTE: Well, what I was getting at really is that if all citizens, the Jewish community, the Christian community and all else had taken a very early aggressive stand rather than somehow suggesting or thinking or feeling that this would have gone away, we might have found that Germany would have been in a far different place than it wound up in.


Video here.

Transcript here.

8 Comments:

Blogger Soundsurfr said...

You know my arrogant little neighborhood restaurant with the sandwich sign out front (spoken about here)?

This is what the sign said this morning:

Hitler
Hussein
UBL
Belafonte

Nice, huh? I've decided I'm going to start messing with the signs late at night.

3:06 PM  
Blogger fgfdsg said...

That's some truly pathetic junior high school debating skills on display. This man's a media figure?

I assume he doesn't ask the hard questions, even to himself, because he figure's he'll be one of the Elite if shit did go down.

"But no one has taken you or anyone else, as far as I can tell, to an extermination camp..."

This is called Catastrophising Wolf. Taking the arguement to the most ridiculous extreme doesn't make your point valid, it just makes you look like an idiot who's not paying close enough attention to what's actually being said.

3:21 PM  
Blogger XTCfan said...

No, you guys have it all wrong. We need to just sit back and hope for the best, and we will have peace in our time.

:-p


csaiypde (and I say, wipe de what?)

3:55 PM  
Blogger The Heretik said...

Thanks for the link on that. Saying people should speak up is not the same what Blitzer is accusing Belafonte of: blaming the victim. The more people speak up and the sooner, the less such victims we will have. Or be.

8:44 PM  
Blogger The Viscount LaCarte said...

...Blitzer is accusing Belafonte...

That bit just pushed me right over the edge. Used to be you had to have some semblance of intelligence and journalistic integrity to get on the TV news.

9:23 PM  
Blogger Lance Mannion said...

"First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists, but I was neither, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me."

Blitzer has surely heard this and he knew what Belafonte was saying. He also knows that calling a bad cop a stormtrooper doesn't mean you think all cops are Nazis. We don't need to have Kristalnacht in Muslim neighborhoods and trains rolling in the night for there to be some people in the Government who are in thought, deed, heart, and soul fascists.

10:58 PM  
Blogger The Viscount LaCarte said...

Thanks for reminding us of that one Lance.

10:36 AM  
Blogger Kevin Wolf said...

Jesus H Christ in a party dress. I can't believe someone this stupid has his own show. No wonder I never watch this stuff.

7:27 PM  

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